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$950,000 to Go Into Full Productionpage  1 2 
Chuck T
USA

Posts 678
10 Jul 2012 21:17


I was learning about a new Kickstarter project and it costs $950,000 to go into full production.

"Kickstarter project OUYA, the Android powered console, is striking gold"

 
  It is very popular.  They raised $100,00 in an hour:
 
  EXTERNAL LINK 
  EXTERNAL LINK 
  I'm looking at this as a guide to base Natami production on.  If you want to look at what others can do, why not compare it to what the Natami team has to do.

Joe M
Norway

Posts 500
10 Jul 2012 23:27


It is definitely worth a try. Raising money this way should be considered as an option when the final Natami prototype board is ready for a full scale production.

Chuck T
USA

Posts 678
10 Jul 2012 23:55


NVIDIA Tegra 3: Amazing Gaming 2012
 
 
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  I think the graphics are pretty incredible and the specs are impressive:
 
  •Tegra3 quad-core processor
  •1GB RAM
  •8GB of internal flash storage
  •HDMI connection to the TV, with support for up to 1080p HD
  •WiFi 802.11 b/g/n
  •Bluetooth LE 4.0
  •USB 2.0 (one)
  •Wireless controller with standard controls (two analog sticks, d-pad, eight action buttons, a system button), a touchpad
  •Android 4.0
 
  Someone just needs to root it.

"Hackers welcome.
Have at it: It's easy to root (and rooting won't void your warranty). Everything opens with standard screws. Hardware hackers can create their own peripherals, and connect via USB or Bluetooth. You want our hardware design? Let us know. We might just give it to you. Surprise us!"



Jacek Rafal Tatko
Espania

Posts 607
11 Jul 2012 12:26


Given the cheapness of RAM it ought to be at least a 4GB Chip & may it also be double to quadruple the internal storage ( 16-32GB ) , and USB-3 . None of these possible improvements would cost an eye .

Marcel Verdaasdonk
Netherlands

Posts 3977
11 Jul 2012 17:42


Overall 1GB is enough for a console what this is intended to be.(at this point in time)

People forget this but because it is a console the OS can be just as optimized as Amiga OS.
This means that the OS would have a relative small footprint.

As for internal storage I would agree or disagree depending on expandability options.
Keep in mind the goal is to keep the price below $100,- adding features does not attain this goal rather it would work against it.
USB3 is not a must USB2 rather is because this is the same at a lower transfer rate.(400MB/s suffice)

As for wired internet i can understand this would not fit in the design as esthetics would require minimalistic.

As stated before internal storage i am willing to fight on but keep in mind FLASH ROM's are not cheap for high volume storage.

I might get one of these to HACK it. ;)

Chuck T
USA

Posts 678
11 Jul 2012 18:06


Marcel Verdaasdonk wrote:

  As stated before internal storage i am willing to fight on but keep in mind FLASH ROM's are not cheap for high volume storage.
 
  I might get one of these to HACK it. ;)

I have Need For Speed Hot Pursuit running on my Amazon Kindle Fire.  It was a large download but Electronic Arts did a good job in packing the files that decompressed for the Kindle.  So large programs are not a problem on the Kindle.

I went on vacation and stayed in a motel with free wifi.  Then I went to play the music on my Kindle Fire and discovered that my music was stored on the cloud and wouldn't play because the internet was down.  Cloud storage streams the programs and files to your device.  It only stinks when the internet isn't working.

Amazon gives me about 6 gigabytes free and I'm guessing that my Kindle has 8 Gigabytes of memory.


Samuel D Crow
USA
(Natami Team)
Posts 1295
12 Jul 2012 02:17


Keep in mind that there is an Android-hosted version of AROS already although it's still experimental.

Wojtek P
Poland

Posts 1597
12 Jul 2012 09:52


Chuck T wrote:

I was learning about a new Kickstarter project and it costs $950,000 to go into full production.
 
  "Kickstarter project OUYA, the Android powered console, is striking gold"
 
 
  It is very popular.  They raised $100,00 in an hour:
 
  EXTERNAL LINK   
  EXTERNAL LINK 
  I'm looking at this as a guide to base Natami production on.  If you want to look at what others can do, why not compare it to what the Natami team has to do.

Next would be... it's needed 999999$ to put natami into production.

Finally in will not be produced anyway ;)


Chuck T
USA

Posts 678
12 Jul 2012 13:18


Wojtek P wrote:

 
  Finally in will not be produced anyway ;)
 

Wojtek,

What have you ever produced?

Chuck

Wojtek P
Poland

Posts 1597
12 Jul 2012 14:35


Chuck T wrote:

Wojtek P wrote:

 
  Finally in will not be produced anyway ;)
 
 

 
 
  Wojtek,
 
  What have you ever produced?
 
  Chuck

In hardware - not much. in software - a lot.


Chuck T
USA

Posts 678
12 Jul 2012 15:30


Joe M wrote:

It is definitely worth a try. Raising money this way should be considered as an option when the final Natami prototype board is ready for a full scale production.

They have raised $3,960,000 as of right now with 27 days to go.  They have raised a record for Kickstarter.  I'm guessing they will have quite the userbase.

They have three users who raised $5,000 and 5 users who raised $10,000.  I'm guessing these individuals are developers or companies.



Adrian Browne
Ireland

Posts 172
12 Jul 2012 21:08


Could something like the clone 'A' project (finished but not released?)be utilised in a device like a portable amiga or such?Could it be augmented or utilise modern chips too?wishful thinking i know but i would sweat blood and tears to see such a device made.a true portable amiga computer/games machine with a proper keyboard and styled like an a500/1200 with modern sensibilities in design.i wish some of the technical guys here would consider doing such a thing.Kickstarter would be the way to go!!!i would gladly devote money and all my spare time to such a thing.What are the areas of expertise some of you guys specialise in?Could it be done?

Adrian Browne
Ireland

Posts 172
12 Jul 2012 21:11


Could something like the clone 'A' project (finished but not released?)be utilised in a device like a portable amiga or such?Could it be augmented or utilise modern chips too?wishful thinking i know but i would sweat blood and tears to see such a device made.a true portable amiga computer/games machine with a proper keyboard and styled like an a500/1200 with modern sensibilities in design.i wish some of the technical guys here would consider doing such a thing.Kickstarter would be the way to go!!!i would gladly devote money and all my spare time to such a thing.What are the areas of expertise some of you guys specialise in?Could it be done? (forum glitch so posted twice)

Wojtek P
Poland

Posts 1597
13 Jul 2012 09:14


Chuck T wrote:

Joe M wrote:

  It is definitely worth a try. Raising money this way should be considered as an option when the final Natami prototype board is ready for a full scale production.
 

 
  They have raised $3,960,000 as of right now with 27 days to go.  They have raised a record for Kickstarter.  I'm guessing they will have quite the userbase.
 
  They have three users who raised $5,000 and 5 users who raised $10,000.  I'm guessing these individuals are developers or companies.m
 
 

Work hard, i wish you success.

There are over 100 cows on that  forum to be milked.

Chuck T
USA

Posts 678
13 Jul 2012 12:48


Wojtek P wrote:

Chuck T wrote:

 
Joe M wrote:

  It is definitely worth a try. Raising money this way should be considered as an option when the final Natami prototype board is ready for a full scale production.
 

 
  They have raised $3,960,000 as of right now with 27 days to go.  They have raised a record for Kickstarter.  I'm guessing they will have quite the userbase.
 
  They have three users who raised $5,000 and 5 users who raised $10,000.  I'm guessing these individuals are developers or companies.m
 
 
 

  Work hard, i wish you success.
 
  There are over 100 cows on that  forum to be milked.

I'm not buying the game platform.  If I went in with other users beforehand knowing that we would be programming it and developing for it then I would be working on it with them.

There are 34,346 backers (customers) for the platform and that number is growing.  Once they have a working unit, they will be selling more to the public.  I'm guessing that developers will be making some money from the game console.



Chuck T
USA

Posts 678
16 Jul 2012 21:13


Ouya Team Now Working With Nvidia

"On the product side...
"We spent yesterday with nVidia talking about our chips. The team is great and their support has been incredible. They’re working side by side with us, and they’ll help us maximize the performance of the Tegra 3 chipset we’re using. "

EXTERNAL LINK 

Wow.  They've almost reached 5 million dollars and there are 23 days to go.



Wojtek P
Poland

Posts 1597
17 Jul 2012 09:26


Chuck T wrote:

Joe M wrote:

  It is definitely worth a try. Raising money this way should be considered as an option when the final Natami prototype board is ready for a full scale production.
 

 
  They have raised $3,960,000 as of right now with 27 days to go.  They have raised a record for Kickstarter.  I'm guessing they will have quite the userbase.
 
  They have three users who raised $5,000 and 5 users who raised $10,000.  I'm guessing these individuals are developers or companies.
 
 

true example how devil works. get >3 millions just to startup game console that would promote it's excuse of OS.

Real game console would not use Android OS. Best would be no OS at all, and open and standard hardware specs.


Wojtek P
Poland

Posts 1597
17 Jul 2012 09:28


Chuck T wrote:

Ouya Team Now Working With Nvidia
 
  "On the product side...
  "We spent yesterday with nVidia talking about our chips. The team is great and their support has been incredible. They’re working side by side with us, and they’ll help us maximize the performance of the Tegra 3 chipset we’re using. "
 
  EXTERNAL LINK 
 
  Wow.  They've almost reached 5 milliondollars and there are 23 days to go.
 
 

This just shows that people are willing to spend 5 millions for a crap and nothing for anything useful.

  Unix world is clear example - the more stupid addons are added to OS, the better is sponsoring. Linux have greatest sponsoring, OpenBSD smallest.

Chuck T
USA

Posts 678
17 Jul 2012 15:06


Wojtek P wrote:

 

  true example how devil works. get >3 millions just to startup game console that would promote it's excuse of OS.
 
  Real game console would not use Android OS. Best would be no OS at all, and open and standard hardware specs.
 

They have almost five million dollars and 38,935 users and you don't.

Who told Commodore to go over budget?  Who told Commodore to stop producing the Commodore 64 line of computers?  Somehow I think that if Commodore had not gone over budget, had one engineer and had one person on the assembly line, I think they still would be in business.

It seems you have to be an excuse and have an excuse of an OS to make money.

Wojtek P
Poland

Posts 1597
18 Jul 2012 10:25


Chuck T wrote:

Wojtek P wrote:

 

  true example how devil works. get >3 millions just to startup game console that would promote it's excuse of OS.
 
  Real game console would not use Android OS. Best would be no OS at all, and open and standard hardware specs.
 
 

 
  They have almost five million dollars and 38,935 users and you don't.

Definitely. Just a prove of good marketing. nothing else.

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