First of all, I would like to say THANKS for all your efforts to bring the Amiga back to life. The Natami project is surely the BEST of all attempts to revive the Amiga.

But....

I can't even remember how long I've been waiting for it, checking this site once or twice a week. It's been SEVERAL YEARS now. And every time I come here, I see the same thing: someone got one of the few development board, posted a couple of pictures, wrote a post praising its fantastic performance and compatibility, and... that's it. And then someone else does the same thing, and so on.

And I am getting older and older. In the meantime, I decided not to get an A4000 with PPC card, as I decided to wait for Natami. Then I decided not to get the Minimig, waiting for Natami. Then I decided not to get the X1000, waiting for Natami....

Not only I keep waiting, but I keep waiting WITHOUT any other Amiga compatible device, still hoping that I will soon be able to get the Natami...

In the meantime I got almost 40 y.o., and I may as well get 50 if you keep delaying the launch the same way...

After those 2 or 3 years of waiting, I'm slowly losing hope. The Natami would be a MUCH better solution, but if FPGA Arcade or any other similar device with AGA and at least 68020 support comes out, I'll probably get it instead of Natami (as I can't afford both) because I rally cannot wait another year or two, nor can I be really sure that you will EVER make it available....  And many (most?) other people will probably do the same.

I am not complaining, I am just trying to bring this important topic to your attention. It's good that you're trying to make the product as perfect as possible, but there needs to be a HEALTHY and REASONABLE BALANCE between it and the time it takes. Or else, when you're finally ready in 2-3 years, it may turn out that there is NO ONE left still willing to get it, as everyone either got some other device instead, or simply got too old and disinterested...

You need to understand that only those who have owned an Amiga in the past are interested in the Natami. Not the younger generations who don't remember the real Amiga. So Natami must come out BEFORE that classic Amiga generation gets old and dies. Or actually before those people get too old, as at that age they probably won't be interested in buying an Amiga compatible computer, either.

Please, guys, RELEASE IT, even if it isn't perfect. Nothing is. Even the real, classic Amigas had bugs and issues.  If Commodore wanted to wait with the launch of the Amigas until they could make them PERFECT, most probably we would have NEVER seen them.

You suck and have no patience. These guys are doing it in their spare time and when its done its done. Do what I have and pick up a classic system and re-live some dreams and have fun while waiting.
Oh and I am 40 years old too and feel like i am still a kid!

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I have more patience than you can imagine. It was my first request after YEARS of waiting in silence. My kids grew up since I've heard about Natami for the first time.

And if you haven't noticed, first of all I thanked the team for their great effort and for the wonderful idea, and then I *kindly requested* that they do not try to make it perfect if it takes another year or two.  I wasn't complaining, just merely kindly asking.

Oh, and YES, I am aware that they do it in their spare time and I respect it.  But when the boards are finally ready, they will be SELLING them, not giving away for free, right? So it is going to be a COMMERCIAL product. And if so, then I don't think it is incorrect to look at it from a potential CUSTOMER's perspective.

And I think you did not understand me correctly. What I wanted to say was that if the product works as good as those lucky ones testing the MX boards say, maybe it isn't necessary to keep delaying it by another year or more. Maybe it is sufficiently good to make it available now, at least for those like me who can ACCEPT small issues or incompatibilities, many of which can probably be fixed in the future via firmware upgrades.  And then they can release an improved / enhanced MkII of the board which will be as perfect as they wish.

I am 40 years old too and feel like i am still a kid!

Then you should understand that kids are impatient.

not much leaked into the wild about how it works, videos, benchmarks, reports about compatibility and functionality issues, even less than when it comes to the famous x1k..

If so, then it's even more disappointing after all those years. Am I right that the project was started in 2008 or maybe even earlier? If so, it's FOUR YEARS (or more) now. The X1k is MUCH younger than that.

alas you better burry your hopes.

If so then I really don't get it what you're all doing here. Killing time?

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Tomasz Borek wrote:

If so then I really don't get it what you're all doing here. Killing time?

We have become addicted to this site... ;-)

I'm agree with you, but .. do not miss out on other occasions if they seem interesting...

I'm here because the Amiga, errrr, NatAmi is the ONLY computer that I can use to it's fullest extent. The others give me little value as they expect me to yield to the way THEY want me to function. I find that unacceptable and it takes ALL the fun away from using them.

No matter how you look at it, even though the NatAmi is "10,000 times slower than an 8 core 3.6 GHz CPU" it's still FUN!

I'm 45, and will wait, and wait, and wait.....

I think if you visit Hackaday, Sparkfun, Dangerousprototypes, Adafruit, Make, Instructables, Electronics-DIY, PyroElectric, Xgamestation, Xmos forums, Microchip forums, Seeedstudio, there are a bunch of sites for do-it-yourself people and then more.  There are hobby people trying to re-create the SID chip, recreate old computers, etc.

I still think the Commodore 64 or Apple IIe are wonderful computers to learn programming on because the commands are limited to a set number.  It would take a person about two years in the real world to really learn C because of the IBM's architecture.

The difference is that fewer people are going to get their start programming on an IBM PC or Mac unless you have small reference manuals and easy to use languages.

The other thing is that it is just a computer and if you can't program a Natami, what makes you think you can program anything else better?

The newer computers came and computer clubs are rarely for programmers anymore because they feel they can't compete against a Microsoft programmer who has the most powerful tools in the world and can program 365 days a year for years and years in a team.  So what do you do other than give up?  The Natami should be for people who still like to program and enjoy programming.

Good ideas don't die.  Computer classrooms were filled by Apple II and Commodore computers.  You let the dream die by allowing these corporate computers like the IBM and the Mac in because they are licensed and closed environments.

The Natami is for users who want to re-discover what programming and computing is all about.

Wow.  This should be a commercial for the Natami!

+1
I've an A1200 with ACA1231 so I'm not excited by fastest "classic amiga" solution.
I was impressed by the exciting 68070 softcore or meanwhile the 32bit 68060 solution.
But guys,I'm not patient :) :) sorry for stressing you ;)

++1 (ahhhh, I hate C)

Excellent post!!!

(Not that others didn't make many excellent ones either.)

I am never leaving this website/messageboard!!!!