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Thierry Atheist
Canada
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Posts 1828
02 May 2012 13:16
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Well, even in THAT MANY purchases, if we can't sell more than 1,000 NatAmis.......... I STILL WANT 2!!!!!!Oh, and, it's their loss.
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Chuck T
USA
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Posts 678
02 May 2012 13:31
| In a sense, people are able to sit on the couch with an iPad and watch t.v. and multitask whereas a desktop computer is pretty fixed and you have to sit at a desk. A laptop has a lot of weight and you have to be careful where you set it down and how you transport it. In a sense, the way we use computers is changing but I don't think it is a dead industry. You can't get the speed from netbooks that you can from desktops or laptops. The iPad is still a glorified e-reader.
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Casey R Williams
USA
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Posts 149
03 May 2012 08:20
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In a sense, people are able to sit on the couch with an iPad and watch t.v. and multitask whereas a desktop computer is pretty fixed and you have to sit at a desk. A laptop has a lot of weight and you have to be careful where you set it down and how you transport it.
In a sense, the way we use computers is changing but I don't think it is a dead industry. You can't get the speed from netbooks that you can from desktops or laptops. The iPad is still a glorified e-reader.
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This has always been my biggest concern about Natami. If you use a desktop these days,it is because you need a desktop... You need room for parallel GFX cards,a huge PSU, and the heat dissipation of a large multi-fan cooled box.
Hardcore gamers, 3D artists, audio/video editors still need real workstations. Any other device that is minimally productive should be in a form that is portable. You can plug a small device into a large display + all kinds of peripherals and have a serviceable computer, but you can't make a workstation that is also easily carried. I understand why people sentimentally prefer a "desktop", but I fear some people must still think "big case = serious computer"...
Anything bigger than a ham sandwich better be able to crunch some serious numbers.(The Minimig isn't very large and yet doesn't seem to have sacrificed any fuctionality. When I said portable I meant in "pick-up-and-go", not as in something you could use in transit.)
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Jens Drößler
Germany
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Posts 136
08 May 2012 02:24
| There is no need for concern. Yes, it's a nice fantasy, thinking the NatAmi could get mainstream and people would buy it because it can do what they need to do. But in reality, no one will buy Natami because of that, sorry to burst bubles here. The NatAmi will be bought by FANS of the Amiga, maybe there will even be some new fans, but not much. Everything productive that can be done with the Natami can be done much better (from the perspective of the average computer user) by a consumer windows PC for less money. The NatAmi won't sell for 200$, but won't even deliver the number crunching power of a PC you buy second hand for 150$. No brilliant OS and no intelligent chip design will change that. I mean, really, how do you expect an FPGA-based computer to compete with the windows world with production quantities thousands of times higher when even big shot companies like apple can only get 10% of the pie, with basically the same cheaply produceable hardware components? As long as the common customer sees no need to get anything else than a windows PC he won't buy anything else. And they won't see such a need, as a cheap windows PC can do anything they need to do and has the potential for even more. The NatAmi will always be at best an addition to what's already established.
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Pawel K.
Poland
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Posts 53
08 May 2012 11:05
| 400,000,000 (in 2011) = "dead Industry"?
PC will never die as there will always be demand for it.
Reason why tere were so many sales is that most people didn't had any computer and even if they did it became too slow to be usable. But now when some 2004 laptop with Pentium M is fast enough for everything there is little to no need to replace it. And even if then no one will thow it away but sell/give away it....
So PC market is just starting to saturate and that makes sales worse. Also now aren't the best days when it comes to economy that might influence the sales.
as for NatAmi... PC sales don't influence it in any way. Even it there were no single PC sold in eg. 2013 then it won't help NatAmi at all
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Jakob Eriksson
Sweden
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Posts 1097
08 May 2012 12:30
| Something like that, yes. PCs are like normal cars sold at dealerships all over the world. Natami is like this: EXTERNAL LINK
On paper, everything is worse. Weaker engine, no windshield, expensive ... yet AWESOME!
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Thierry Atheist
Canada
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Posts 1828
08 May 2012 12:40
| Hi Jakob, Is that an exokernel I see? :-D
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Jakob Eriksson
Sweden
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Posts 1097
08 May 2012 15:10
| Looks like it! :)
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