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Julio Arroyo
USA
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Posts 8
25 Oct 2010 01:51
| Has anyone given any thought of packaging the 68050/070 FPGA version of the CPU for use in classic Amigas? Given the availability / cost of PPC accelerator boards, this would probably be a cheaper way to go, and generate some near term revenue for the NatAmi initiative. I don't know if this is possible, I am just throwing it out there for thoughts.....
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Samuel D Crow
USA
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Posts 1295
25 Oct 2010 03:18
| According to an old thread CLICK HERE they won't come cheap. Since the AGA compatibility is already done for the NatAmi, it would actually drain resources away from the NatAmi motherboard designs which the team cannot afford to lose. The SuperAGA core prototypes are already 200x faster than AGA. Why waste time with an old Amiga AGA chipset machine?
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Julio Arroyo
USA
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Posts 8
25 Oct 2010 03:29
| Never mind, I see this has been discussed before... Thanks
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Gunnar von Boehn
Germany
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Posts 5775
25 Oct 2010 07:03
| Samuel D Crow wrote:
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According to an old thread CLICK HERE they won't come cheap. Since the AGA compatibility is already done for the NatAmi, it would actually drain resources away from the NatAmi motherboard designs which the team cannot afford to lose.
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As Sam said the NATAMI consumer motherboards are on the finsih line of development right now.
This means a CPU accelerator for old AMIGA could be done after the NATAMI. This means the CPU accelerator will come out after the NATAMI boards. A CPU Card also needs an FPGA, a multlayer PCB, memory, and maybe some connectors borrowed from the NATAMI design like eg. Ethernet, PCI, IDE, CF ... If you leave the Super-AGA chipset away in the FPGA we could use a little smaller FPGA and save a handful of $.
The price will depend also of the number of produced boards.
If the number is lower then the number of NATAMI boards the CPU card might get the same price or become pricier in the end.
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Loïc Dupuy
France
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Posts 253
25 Oct 2010 11:43
| To avoid natami community spliting, perhaps it will be best to let access to the VHDL, then the interested company/people will be able to design their own accelerator for classic amigas. Because i do not have any classic, i will go directly for the Natami, and if the Natami is really 100% compatible for your need, it will be better to buy the Natami than having a new board in a very old hardware (do not forget the natural electronic components decay)
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Claudio Wieland
Germany
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Posts 703
25 Oct 2010 14:18
| To avoid community splitting, how about everybody changing over to Natami? (^^)
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Guillaume Michalakakos
France
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Posts 454
25 Oct 2010 14:21
| I agree. The power of an amiga isn't just the CPU. It's time to look forward for the use of a new and faster amiga chipset. Who cares to have a powerfull CPU but still a very slow chipset or zorro ? You can have a faster chipset who can evolve in HW with some SW updates (FPGA is nice). We will finally say a little goodbye to our old good amigas, they need to sleep now :D
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SID Hervé
France
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Posts 663
25 Oct 2010 23:07
| Hello
I am not going to argue for or against an accelerator card. But the Amiga and the NatAmi will not exclude each other.
The AGA scenario will be probably repeated with the NatAmi, we keep the old and buy the next generation.
Dixit a great name in the computer world, the Amiga market is a niche which is sufficient. This computer has a very low depreciation, the number of machines in the world is not far from the number of unit manufactured and his community is quality...PS: Today, the A2000 is a bit forgotten, so if you could have a thought for him...
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