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SID Hervé
France
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Posts 663
20 Oct 2010 20:20
| Marcel Verdaasdonk wrote:
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Thierry be careful Richard looks like he means it...
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I am not sure that this is the answer to the question, it seems to be the expression of a certain fatalism...
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Alan Haynes
Australia
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Posts 74
21 Oct 2010 08:47
| Thierry Atheist wrote:
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In that case, which FPGA is the NatAmi using, the ~150 MHz equivalent or the ~230 MHz equivalent 68050? The difference in price between the two is narrowing, right? I hope that the faster one is used.
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Thierry, does it really matter?
You must ask yourself; what is the most important thing with this project that I would like to happen?
Both FPGA's are faster than an 060 and which ever one is chosen will deliver us (possibly) the most compatible and fastest Amiga ever. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All this wanting more and more can never be satisfied you know. If they announced a 1GHz FPGA next week you would be wanting that instead. Slow down and enjoy the journey. If the builders of the first Amiga A1000 had behaved like this, always holding out for the fastest and best CPU or whatever we probably would never have had an Amiga at all. We would still be waiting.
Relax, put your feet up and smell the roses and let this Team do their job. When we get the first production/consumer models in our hands then we can start worrying about how they can be improved.Cheers from downunder,
Alan
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Marcel Verdaasdonk
Netherlands
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Posts 3974
21 Oct 2010 10:06
| Thierry it's a engineering task and you shouldn't put it in a commite
since that would would total get the speed out of a project.
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Amiga Ppc
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Posts 246
21 Oct 2010 10:40
| @all Why do you all take Thierry seriously? He is in love, and we all know, when you are in love - you are not realistic... :-) @Thierry - no offense meant.
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André Jernung
Sweden
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Posts 988
21 Oct 2010 10:46
| @Amiga Ppc Unfortunately, it does not seem to only be love. Look at what he writes at MooBunny, for example :)
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Gunnar von Boehn
Germany
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Posts 5775
21 Oct 2010 10:48
| To prevent any misunderstandings:
The MX Board is already fully designed by now.
"MX" is the code name for the Natami consumer board.The FPGA on the MX was very carefully chosen to provide in our opinion the optimum of performance, size (=features), and cost.
We did chose a reasonable big FPGA to provide enough space for future upgrades like MMU or FPU.
But we also did choose an FPGA which the people can effort.
There is no point to go for a super high end FPGA which costs $1000 per piece alone Please accept the choice as it is as its reasonable. Please note that changing the FPGA (to a different family) would require a complete new board design which is a several month tasks. I think as of today the FPGA choice is very good.
In 2-3 years when newer and much more powerful FPGA are available an updated redesign will make sense.
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Lord Aga
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Posts 129
21 Oct 2010 10:48
| Alan Haynes wrote:
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Relax, put your feet up and smell the roses
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Thierry's feet smell like roses ?
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Kowalski .
Italy
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Posts 43
21 Oct 2010 11:45
| Alan Haynes wrote:
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the most compatible and fastest Amiga ever.
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I'm in... I never left! My salutations to all the Team and the Board. Andre
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Alan Haynes
Australia
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Posts 74
21 Oct 2010 14:02
| Gunnar von Boehn wrote:
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To prevent any misunderstandings:
The MX Board is already fully designed by now.
"MX" is the code name for the Natami consumer board.
The FPGA on the MX was very carefully chosen to provide in our opinion the optimum of performance, size (=features), and cost.
We did chose a reasonable big FPGA to provide enough space for future upgrades like MMU or FPU.
But we also did choose an FPGA which the people can effort.
There is no point to go for a super high end FPGA which costs $1000 per piece alone
Please accept the choice as it is as its reasonable.
Please note that changing the FPGA (to a different family) would require a complete new board design which is a several month tasks.
I think as of today the FPGA choice is very good.
In 2-3 years when newer and much more powerful FPGA are available an updated redesign will make sense.
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Thank you Gunnar!!! Do you see now Thierry? The project is moving along very nicely and we need to offer to help where we can to bring this to light sooner than later. Remember the A500 and how no one thought it could be expanded or enhanced. By the end of it's life it could do almost as much as a big box Amiga with its real limitation being no AGA. Natami to me, after all I have read on these threads is almost like that except that it is 25 years later. It will be the first of a new breed of Amiga's for the 21st Century. That is the potential I see in Natami. Go Team Go. Cheers from Downunder Alan
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SID Hervé
France
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Posts 663
21 Oct 2010 19:17
| This should not be easy every day for the team. On the one hand, the rigour of the development and on the other, the human irrationality. We have the chance to follow the development almost in live.
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