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Gabriele Budelacci
Italy
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Posts 92
22 Feb 2010 10:10
| A video is available on Youtube:
EXTERNAL LINK The CPU is an enhanced 68K softcore (a standard 68K with full 32 bit addressing).
It's possible a N050 integration in it?
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Gunnar von Boehn
Germany
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Posts 3738
22 Feb 2010 10:17
| Cool stuff!
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Channel Z
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Posts 213
22 Feb 2010 10:24
| Very impressive.
I take it that this was the compatibility level reached when SuperAGA was demonstrated at MeKa two years ago?
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Louis Dias
USA
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Posts 33
22 Feb 2010 14:03
| So there is an AGA "core" out there already...hmmm....
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Ralph Eisermann
Germany
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Posts 58
22 Feb 2010 14:41
| so also minimig might be able to leave toyland. The core should be the tobiflex core. But our aim is the recreation of AAA and not AA!
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Mr Copland ;)
United Kingdom
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Posts 452
22 Feb 2010 16:36
| Louis Dias wrote:
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So there is an AGA "core" out there already...hmmm....
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Yup and Yaqube has been pretty good with this stuff so far! I'm really excited by this, there could well be a glut of AGA compatible machines out there again soon, all FPGA based!I was MikeJ had more time to work on getting his board into production so I can buy one. Don't worry Gunnar, I'll still be buying Natami too :D Andy
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Marcel Verdaasdonk
Netherlands
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Posts 2100
22 Feb 2010 22:01
| Oh we should be careful that they aren't catching up. :P
joking ofcourse, but AGA that is a leap for a A500 compatible.Makes me wonder if the Minimig and the Natami could merge projects in the future.
This would increase the user base, since that is the last thing we would want a split in. Strength in unity and numbers, Marcel.
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Mr Copland ;)
United Kingdom
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Posts 452
22 Feb 2010 22:34
| This is implemented on MikeJ's FPGAArcade board rather than the MiniMig EXTERNAL LINK Yaqube has said that it won't fit in the MiniMig FPGA
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Gabriele Budelacci
Italy
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Posts 92
23 Feb 2010 10:53
| Right, a FPGAArcade with a Minimig softcore (as readed from other sites). My question is: is possible to integrate the N050 in it?
Maybe, this can be a good opportunity for speedup the N050 development (easier debugging into a semi-standard Amiga environment)
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Marcel Verdaasdonk
Netherlands
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Posts 2100
23 Feb 2010 12:07
| Define standard. ;) Standard would be using a smaller FPGA and make it pinout compatible with a real IC.
first piggyback then let it go solo. That is standard, procedure for me at least. So define standard environment, then you can deduce the semi part. ;)
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Gabriele Budelacci
Italy
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Posts 92
23 Feb 2010 12:35
| Marcel, please don't so stickler.. :-) My think is that Minimig is able to run old software, so if it's possible to plug a N050 softcore into it, it's possible too to run all the existent amiga software. You can use this software to speed up the development and debug of the N050.
The other way is to wait the Natami board to be finished, and then test the N050 into it (but you must wait, wait and wait...). I think the first option more interesting, if appliable. Regards
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Vann Vicious
USA
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Posts 4
23 Feb 2010 22:35
| Im certainly no engineer, but would this not be a great platform to be testing the 68050?
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Steve Ferrell
USA
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Posts 16
24 Feb 2010 02:36
| I brought this topic up in April of 2009 but not much came of it. CLICK HERE
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Gunnar von Boehn
Germany
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Posts 3738
24 Feb 2010 03:06
| Steve Ferrell wrote:
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I brought this topic up in April of 2009 but not much came of it.
CLICK HERE |
We offered our help - can we do more?
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Gunnar von Boehn
Germany
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Posts 3738
24 Feb 2010 05:48
| Ralph Eisermann wrote:
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so also minimig might be able to leave toyland. The core should be the tobiflex core. But our aim is the recreation of AAA and not AA!
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Well it least our aim is Super-AGA not AAA. :-)
Super-AGA is more powerful than AAA and fully backward compatible to AGA which AAA was not.But you are right as our Super-AGA chipset has many of the features of the planned AAA chipset.
:-)
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Gabriele Budelacci
Italy
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Posts 92
24 Feb 2010 09:41
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Im certainly no engineer, but would this not be a great platform to be testing the 68050?
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(My apologies for misunderstoods :-)
I agree!!
N050 is a softcore processor, so what's change from a platform to another platform? I don't speek about Super-AGA, only for N050.
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Marcel Verdaasdonk
Netherlands
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Posts 2100
24 Feb 2010 10:36
| Ah, how lovely miss communication.
Anyhow this is best explained by make a list, needs and haves.
So what does the Minimig need and what does the 68050 offer?
and at what cost, in Slices for the Xilinx, or in LE for Altera's chips.
Remember size does mater.
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Gunnar von Boehn
Germany
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Posts 3738
24 Feb 2010 12:00
| Marcel Verdaasdonk wrote:
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So what does the Minimig need and what does the 68050 offer?
and at what cost, in Slices for the Xilinx, or in LE for Altera's chips.
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While the TG68 is tuned for small size the 68050 is tuned for high performance.
The 68050 needs about 8000 LE.
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Casey R Williams
USA
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Posts 97
25 Feb 2010 08:02
| How can you recreate AAA? I didn't think it ever reached a functional stage...
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Samuel D Crow
USA
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Posts 546
25 Feb 2010 16:46
| Casey Ryan Williams wrote:
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How can you recreate AAA? I didn't think it ever reached a functional stage...
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There were some partially functional prototypes. But SuperAGA is better anyway.
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