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Chuck T
USA
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Posts 679
25 Mar 2012 06:05
| Gunnar von Boehn wrote:
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amiga ppc wrote:
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I want to hear opinion from Gunnar on this subject. What do you say Guru?
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*Looking around*
I think that state freezing, reading out of the chipset, and snapshotting the system should be possible with the Natami.
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Couldn't this be used as a backdoor by hackers to create a virus on the hardware side that couldn't be fixed on the Natami side?
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Chris Dennett
United Kingdom
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Posts 135
25 Mar 2012 09:31
| Since when will hackers target Natami?
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Carsten Roth
Germany
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Posts 39
25 Mar 2012 13:10
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time comes ... come hackers.Chris Dennett wrote:
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Since when will hackers target Natami?
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Chuck T
USA
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Posts 679
25 Mar 2012 20:32
| Chris Dennett wrote:
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Since when will hackers target Natami?
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Why would the Natami be immune? They would only be immune while the numbers are small and the word doesn't get out. Why would hackers target PCs or Macs? Because they are there. Why would hackers target the Natami? Because it is there. Maybe someone will want to be the first.
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Marcel Verdaasdonk
Netherlands
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Posts 3991
25 Mar 2012 21:55
| Chuck it is not economical to write a virus for a system that has moved less then 10000 units globally.
Unless there are specialized controller systems.
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Chuck T
USA
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Posts 679
25 Mar 2012 22:30
| Marcel Verdaasdonk wrote:
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Chuck it is not economical to write a virus for a system that has moved less then 10000 units globally.
Unless there are specialized controller systems.
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It is an Altera product so I think the parts are more common than we think. I think the older generation of Amiga users has enough enemies. It is the nature of hackers to write viruses; I went to school with a bum who said he didn't like other people having what he couldn't have. I think it is only a matter of time.
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Jakob Eriksson
Sweden
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Posts 1097
26 Mar 2012 14:15
| I will pop a bottle of champagne the day we have Natami viruses. Btw Natami will not have any state save features.
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Chuck T
USA
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Posts 679
26 Mar 2012 14:47
| Jakob Eriksson wrote:
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I will pop a bottle of champagne the day we have Natami viruses. Btw Natami will not have any state save features.
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Wouldn't a state / save feature be a great debugging tool? Don't rule it out altogether.
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Jakob Eriksson
Sweden
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Posts 1097
27 Mar 2012 08:01
| Lots of things are great to have, but even huge companies with lots of employees have to focus on core functionality.
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Olaf Schoenweiss
Germany
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Posts 786
27 Mar 2012 09:15
| Hackers (and creators of virus and trojans) target windows because it is most commonly used (and also for online banking) so it is worth the effort. Niche systems like Natami are not widely used enough to be valuable, even Mac has much less problems because of that. So being small can have advantages :-)
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Olaf Schoenweiss
Germany
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Posts 786
27 Mar 2012 09:22
| Most trojans or viruses are written by criminals and those will not be interested at Natami because only a small number will propably use it for everyday tasks as main system. They want access to bank accounts and for that the Natami is not interesting.
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Ville H.
Finland
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Posts 144
27 Mar 2012 10:09
| There could be a physical on/off firmware flash switch on Natami that one could only mess with the fw-content when you turn this switch. Not just by running some malware-flash-contaminating program.
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Jakob Eriksson
Sweden
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Posts 1097
27 Mar 2012 11:21
| I think we have this already in some form.
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Chuck T
USA
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Posts 679
28 Mar 2012 21:32
| Olaf Schoenweiss wrote:
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Hackers (and creators of virus and trojans) target windows because it is most commonly used (and also for online banking) so it is worth the effort. Niche systems like Natami are not widely used enough to be valuable, even Mac has much less problems because of that. So being small can have advantages :-)
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If you were a hacker and a thief, would it be worth it if you could get $60,000 from each stolen identity? I don't think it has to be about the numbers; you just need one bad apple in our midst.
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Do you have questions about the Natami?