My name, as it says there is Richard, and I'm an amiga fan. I use it today for writing in wordsworth 7, playing mortal kombat, and just messing around attempting to customise os 3.1 without breaking anything (the "without breaking" part is kind of hard.)

Not so suprising, right? That's a pretty normal thing to use an amiga for. What should surprise you, Is that I'm 16. Before I got one about two years ago, I'd never used one before, never seen one, except one Id mistaken for a "weird typewriter" in primary school, and never knew anyone who'd used one (but I never asked. Most would think it an odd question). What got the amiga to my attention?

Spaceballs - State of the art.

I found this one day on youtube, when I was just randomly going through videogame music. Then I saw that demo. I didn't even know what a demo was, and I was blown away. Then I looked up the machine it was running on - My God! It came out in 1985! how is that possible?

I had to get one. Eventually, I got a A500 + Sidecar out of a skip, what might be one of the luckest things ever to happen to me, because I only found it was there when I threw out a broken VCR.

It was amazing.

Now, I'm the owner of an Efika, and it sucks. Too much OS, not enough hardware. I was thinking, the amiga is never going to go anywhere good any more, until I found this project. I'm very very impressed that you're managing to do this, and i've been watching your progress since last year.

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Now, on to buisness. I see there are already a couple of projects to make games for the natami. What I haven't seen, is a racing game. A good old fashioned, cars, track, lights turn green, racing game.

So, I've decided to make one. Now, I can do 3D models, and create texture maps for them, and I'm also right now learning about level design (though the level editor I use would be useless for this project), and I'm sure there are plenty of artist out there who'd be perfecty fine if I used their music. There's only one problem:

I cannot program. Not one bit. God knows I've tried, but C and C++ bore me to sleep. This is a huge roadblock and makes any chance of making a game impossible.

Now, this is where I ask for your help, and solid ideas are put down. Would anyone on this forum like to make a simple racing game? A few cars, lets say six. A muscle car, a convertable, a saloon (sedan), etc. Three racetracks. Whatever music can be licenced for free. Late playstation era graphics. Something where the Game assets (3D art) could be done by me in maybe three months.

Would any of you like to make it a reality?

Welcome to the site.
You came to he right place. Here are many more people with "strange" computer attitudes like you. ;-)

I'm sure you will find someone joining you in this project.
If no one "outside" graps it then I'm sure we of tthe Natami team will ask you to do this project together with us ...
But I don't want to steal this coding oppertunity immediately, so lets see how many coders are still lurking around here.

I know there will be someone here who thinks I have a good idea. And if not, well. There is always the atari messegeboards :).

Do you have some examples of your work / or how you would like the cars to look like?

Welcome, I think you can ask around on Indie music developers on this site.

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membership is free, it's a site for rating music.
be specific about your idea, and just for your info we have some music artist too here.(don't know if he has time)

I can code C++ but i wouldn't be able to build a game from scratch since i have no prior experience.
My forte is in analyzing and seeing the big picture.(too big a picture most of the cases)
Richard i am willing to help, but without someone to keep me on track i shouldn't help.

@Gunnar, no offense but don't spread yourself too thin, your one of the corner stones of this project.

We will help you if you like doing this.

Cheers

I am in the netherlands it's even later here. :P

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Maybe you can use them as inspiration for more work?

Thank you all for the kind words and sugestions. The reason these models have such a high polygon count, is because I was origionaly making them for a very very over ambitious project. lets say "coming in 2025" is still over ambitious.

Anyway, If I was to remove things like detailed engines and underbodies, as well as car interiors I can get these models down to about 2000 polygons not including wheels. For natami, It would  be best I make entire new cars to fit within a 1000-2000 polygon limit, and 256x256 texture maps. I don't think damage modelling is feasible or even wanted, as I was hoping for a simple arcade style game.

Anyone here play ridge racer games in the arcade or PS1? I would Like to make a game like that, with better graphics and more varied types of cars.

Tonight I'll make a blueprint for a Muscle car. Sleep can wait.

Are there still any manifold modelers for the Amiga?  The only one I can recall was, I believe,  Tornado 3D.  Not only was it abandoned, but it needed a dongle to work.  I really wish the author would open source it (yes, I finally found him nearly 10 years later) but I see little chance of that ever happening.

Oh, and sorry if this sounds stupid, but what's a manifold modeler? Some method of modeling other than the usual?

I suggest that every game we make be aproached as an engine first and formost, and THEN as many eventual games (starting with a first of course)

Lets take the additional time to make sure code for this racing game is created in a manner to be understandible and flexible enough to adapt to other 3d games.

I propose that the engine AND the car racing game be created simultanously to a wipe-out style game. (Which I know that myself and others already expressed an interest in creating.)

I agree that it is best to have one game engine for 3D, that can be adapted to many games. It's the most efficent use of manpower, something that is badly needed as it is.

I'm not sure that making them both simoltaniously is a good idea, atleast untill it can be demonstrated of a car driving and turning. Then the game engine could be designed considering both games.

Anyone who is interested in making this game with me, what would be a good file format for 3D models and textures? I Normally save in .3ds for models, .tga for textures, but this might not be appropriate for amiga.

Do you only use triangles or could you also use Quads?

Triangles. My software is kind of obscure and i've found no way to use quads. I think I'd prefer triangles anyway. Does the 3D core support quads? I thought only the sega saturn did.