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Rubens Carrilho Brazil
| | Posts 16 03 Nov 2011 00:23
| I'd like to hear MORE suggestions from users about Nathan Box Case. Should Natami looks like an Amiga 500 or Amiga 1200 Design? Thank You!
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Adrian Browne Ireland
| | Posts 170 03 Nov 2011 01:27
| It would be nice for it to look like an A 500 but with a somewhat modern feel/design. A case that looked like an amiga with a buit in keyboard that was also detachtable and could then be used wirelessly. I wonder will the natami have bluetooth. What would the case be made of be made of in theory? Plastic, aluminium? Would the case have stuff like leds,switches,dvd/cd drive etc or would it just be the casing? Would you manufacture this?Ive read that plastic cases are very expensive to get made.
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Rubens Carrilho Brazil
| | Posts 16 03 Nov 2011 02:56
| adrian browne wrote:
| It would be nice for it to look like an A 500 but with a somewhat modern feel/design. A case that looked like an amiga with a buit in keyboard that was also detachtable and could then be used wirelessly. I wonder will the natami have bluetooth. What would the case be made of be made of in theory? Plastic, aluminium? Would the case have stuff like leds,switches,dvd/cd drive etc or would it just be the casing? Would you manufacture this?Ive read that plastic cases are very expensive to get made.
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Yes I totally agree. But the problem is "How much money" this project has to spend with "Case Design". Because the motherboard is a ITX based board, Am I right? I can do a lot of things, but maybe I need to develop a ITX Case that looks like with Amiga design. I need more informations from the Members Team. I hope that they contact me.
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Flash Lab Netherlands
| | Posts 166 03 Nov 2011 07:25
| I guess you have to source funding yourself for your case design; like The Daddy (who made the MiniMig case) did. Natami is a hobby project for the team and they fund development themselves and only for the hardware and not the case. Maybe, and that is a big maybe, someone will step in as an invester but even then I think first priority will be on baking dedicated chips to replace the FPGA instead of a case design. Of course you can still make a case design. My advice would be to look at other production methods than injection moulding. Injection moulding requires big production series and investments. Maybe modern rapid prototyping can be an option?
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Niclas Aronsson Sweden
| | Posts 57 03 Nov 2011 09:38
| I would love a case based on the A3000D design. Just tiny :)
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Jakob Eriksson Sweden
| | (Moderator) Posts 1097 03 Nov 2011 10:20
| If the case is relatively small, like maybe smaller than an A600, I think an injection moulding tool could be built for about EUR 10 000, give or take a little.
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Richard Maudsley United Kingdom
| | Posts 821 03 Nov 2011 12:41
| Jakob Eriksson wrote:
| If the case is relatively small, like maybe smaller than an A600, I think an injection moulding tool could be built for about EUR 10 000, give or take a little.
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Sounds like the cube I did.
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Chuck T USA
| | Posts 673 03 Nov 2011 14:38
| Rubens Carrilho wrote:
| I'd like to hear MORE suggestions from users about Nathan Box Case. Should Natami looks like an Amiga 500 or Amiga 1200 Design? Thank You!
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I like the old Amiga 1000 design where the keyboard fit under the computer and the monitor sat on the computer and you only needed one dust cover to cover everything. The detachable keyboard is freedom whereas the Amiga 500 or 1200 design isn't ergonomic for typists or people who do a lot of work. I just prefer the 1000 design that was quickly abandoned.
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Rubens Carrilho Brazil
| | Posts 16 03 Nov 2011 21:18
| I have two ways to follow: Future Case Standard Case Or I can do a mixed. EXTERNAL LINK
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Joe M Norway
| | Posts 500 04 Nov 2011 09:12
| Chuck T wrote:
| I like the old Amiga 1000 design where the keyboard fit under the computer and the monitor sat on the computer and you only needed one dust cover to cover everything. The detachable keyboard is freedom whereas the Amiga 500 or 1200 design isn't ergonomic for typists or people who do a lot of work. I just prefer the 1000 design that was quickly abandoned.
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I agree the Amiga 1000 design had its advantages. What I dislike most with the Amiga desktop models is that they have built-in PSUs that need cooling. For me an Amiga should be as noise free as possible. I had an A2000 once where the PSU's built-in fan sounded like a vacuum cleaner. ;)
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Joe M Norway
| | Posts 500 04 Nov 2011 09:16
| Rubens Carrilho wrote:
| I have two ways to follow:Future Case Standard Case Or I can do a mixed. EXTERNAL LINK |
I go for the standard variant, since it is arguably the most practical. The design of the other one was cool. I would prefer another colour though. I would like to have space for a 5.25 "DVD burner and a floppy disk drive, but that's perhaps not what you had in mind? The box doesn't necessarily have to follow the ITX-standard even if the Natami motherboard does. When it comes to space on the inside I think a Micro-ATX type of cabinet would be a better choice.
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Rubens Carrilho Brazil
| | Posts 16 04 Nov 2011 11:14
| NatAmi Cabinet "First Try" https://picasaweb.google.com/110139561026032811728/NatAmiCabinet#5671097024414532002
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Jake Aitchison United Kingdom
| | Posts 1 04 Nov 2011 21:15
| How about a classic style a500/a1200 replica style case?
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Samuel D Crow USA
| | (Natami Team) Posts 1295 04 Nov 2011 23:15
| Rubens Carrilho wrote:
| NatAmi Cabinet "First Try" https://picasaweb.google.com/110139561026032811728/NatAmiCabinet#5671097024414532002
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I like that one just the way it is. A mini tower is lots nicer than the cube I'm going to have to use for mine for the time being. One thing to be considered is that the NatAmi board has a PCI slot on it which will require a riser board to be able to mount cards in it properly. I haven't decided what kind of card I will need in mine so I'll probably leave mine in the stock configuration for a while. Re: A500 cases. The NatAmi has an A500 keyboard interface built in so it should be possible to make a wedge case for those that don't want to use the PCI slot. Keep in mind about the A1200 having all the keyboard control circuitry on the motherboard that neither the A500 nor the NatAmi has therefore making the A1200 case more difficult to do.
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Rubens Carrilho Brazil
| | Posts 16 05 Nov 2011 01:40
| Samuel D Crow wrote:
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Rubens Carrilho wrote:
| NatAmi Cabinet "First Try" https://picasaweb.google.com/110139561026032811728/NatAmiCabinet#5671097024414532002 |
I like that one just the way it is. A mini tower is lots nicer than the cube I'm going to have to use for mine for the time being. One thing to be considered is that the NatAmi board has a PCI slot on it which will require a riser board to be able to mount cards in it properly. I haven't decided what kind of card I will need in mine so I'll probably leave mine in the stock configuration for a while. Re: A500 cases. The NatAmi has an A500 keyboard interface built in so it should be possible to make a wedge case for those that don't want to use the PCI slot. Keep in mind about the A1200 having all the keyboard control circuitry on the motherboard that neither the A500 nor the NatAmi has therefore making the A1200 case more difficult to do.
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Thank you for your considerations. Well, about the pci slot, this mini-case can hold a PCI Card fine, because it has 150mm wide. I would like to contact the NatAmi Team, because I would like to buy a NatAmi MX Board to help with the perfect measurements. Sometimes I fill in the dark. I really would like to help the NatAmi Project !
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The Wolfe USA
| | Posts 10 05 Nov 2011 11:44
| Rubens Carrilho wrote:
| NatAmi Cabinet "First Try" https://picasaweb.google.com/110139561026032811728/NatAmiCabinet#5671097024414532002
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Sharp looking case . . . :-)
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John Devoy United Kingdom
| | Posts 1 27 Nov 2011 03:39
| You cant really design a case without knowing whats required of it. a few examples being...1. will natami run from a small external power brick? 2. can it read original amiga floppies from floppy drive 3. can it use external dvd drives. 4. can it use sdcards. 5. what are the cooling requirements 6. can the daughter cards be run off to an extension cable, if not whats the height with a populated card in place.
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Marcel Verdaasdonk Netherlands
| | Posts 3975 27 Nov 2011 09:04
| 1. no i needs a ATX compatible powersupply. 2. Yes, but within reason some copy protection might break, as with the later A4000T has been the case. 3. USB 1.1 it's too slow to be really usefull and besides that there is a IDE connector internal so why not connected that way. 4. If you use a adepter to either IDE or USB it should work. 5. Minimal, there needs to be only a small airflow using a internal PSU can already provide this. 6. this one i cannot tell in detail.All the above information was already available on the forum if you just searched for it.
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André Jernung Sweden
| | (MX-Board Owner) Posts 988 27 Nov 2011 09:43
| @John and Marcel There are very small DC-DC ATX power supplies where the transforming is handled by an external power brick, like the PicoPSU. I use one with my Natami MX now. Natami has a NEC USB 2.0 chip and not 1.1 as Marcel claims :) The daughter cards should probably not be connected in any other way than a direct connection to the S-Zorro slot. The height of my MX system with a RC CPU card and a small heatsink connected is approx. 5 centimeters.
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Steen Jessen Denmark
| | Posts 35 27 Nov 2011 10:24
| Please try an updated version of the A1200 - I think all the normal cases just look like another (boring) PC-case.
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