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Thierry Atheist
Canada

Posts 1828
13 May 2011 13:06


Wojtek P wrote:

Thierry Atheist wrote:
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I love the RAM: and RAD: disks, and frankly, they are NOT AVAILABLE ON ANY OTHER SYSTEMS!!!!!!!!

Not true.

No system has a RAM: disk that expands and shrinks as it is used.... and no system has a RAD: where you can put the entire OS into it and reboot from the RAD: not needing any other storage device present to rely on otherwise. (Meaning, if there is a swap file, it's in RAD: or even RAM: disk I'll allow.)

If I'm wrong, please list two. Okay, one.

Geir E
Norway

Posts 104
13 May 2011 13:08


Wojtek P wrote:

Thierry Atheist wrote:
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  I love the RAM: and RAD: disks, and frankly, they are NOT AVAILABLE ON ANY OTHER SYSTEMS!!!!!!!!
 

  Not true.

If anyone on a mac want one,

moijk@macpro.lan:~ $ diskutil erasevolume HFS+ "ramdisk" `hdiutil attach -nomount ram://1165430`
Started erase on disk6
Unmounting disk
Erasing
Initialized /dev/rdisk6 as a 569 MB HFS Plus volume
Mounting disk
Finished erase on disk6 ramdisk

Now I have a half gig ramdisk ready to use until i unmount it.

Geir E
Norway

Posts 104
13 May 2011 13:20


Thierry Atheist wrote:

Wojtek P wrote:

 
Thierry Atheist wrote:
.
  I love the RAM: and RAD: disks, and frankly, they are NOT AVAILABLE ON ANY OTHER SYSTEMS!!!!!!!!
 

  Not true.
 

  No system has a RAM: disk that expands and shrinks as it is used.... and no system has a RAD: where you can put the entire OS into it and reboot from the RAD: not needing any other storage device present to rely on otherwise. (Meaning, if there is a swap file, it's in RAD: or even RAM: disk I'll allow.)
 
  If I'm wrong, please list two. Okay, one.

Not that I've tried it, but from the great big google:

"Mac OS 9 (8 and starting with 7) had the awesome feature in Apple ROM that persisted your ramdisk between reboots. It was actually possible to format it; install OS 7 (minimal) onto a 16mb ram disk; select it as your start up disk, and reboot. rebooting would be crazy fast. then you could defrag your original volume or do backups or whatever. I still have a PowerMac 8500 that I can do this on."

So apparently there you have one of your conditions. I can't say anything about the expanding and shrinking part though as I never have owned anything with a PPC processor.

Thierry Atheist
Canada

Posts 1828
13 May 2011 13:40


Well, I'll be.....

The Amiga RAM: and RAD: are limited only to size of ram and some ram left over to function in. It did say "minimal OS install". I wonder how long it was before the OS was too big to fit into it, and at which OS version it may have not been possible to do so anymore?

Also, doubt it's as easy to figure out how to do it on Mac as they probably don't even want you doing it.

Vidar Hokstad
United Kingdom

Posts 70
13 May 2011 16:47


Thierry Atheist wrote:

  No system has a RAM: disk that expands and shrinks as it is used....
 

 
  Every modern Linux distro has this. It's called tmpfs.
 
 

  and no system has a RAD: where you can put the entire OS into it and reboot from the RAD: not needing any other storage device present to rely on otherwise. (Meaning, if there is a swap file, it's in RAD: or even RAM: disk I'll allow.)
 
  If I'm wrong, please list two. Okay, one.
 

 
  Linux supports this in a slightly different way by supporting "suspend to RAM". Suspend to RAM combined with tmpfs gives you what you describe with a suitable bootloader in flash (that is, you probably want a Coreboot compatible system if you want a setup equivalent to having Kickstart in ROM).
 
 

Wojtek P
Poland

Posts 1597
13 May 2011 16:58


Thierry Atheist wrote:

Wojtek P wrote:

 
Thierry Atheist wrote:
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  I love the RAM: and RAD: disks, and frankly, they are NOT AVAILABLE ON ANY OTHER SYSTEMS!!!!!!!!
 

  Not true.
 

  No system has a RAM: disk

Wrong again.
man tmpfs on FreeBSD or NetBSD

similar thing exist on solaris and linux at least. no idea about aix or HP-UP

Gunnar von Boehn
Germany
(Moderator)
Posts 5775
13 May 2011 17:28


Now stop fighting and get back to the thread topic, please!

Alan Haynes
Australia

Posts 74
14 May 2011 07:43


Gunnar von Boehn wrote:

  Now stop fighting and get back to the thread topic, please!
 

 
 
  Gunnar,
 
  Should we have day 13 yet or is someone superstitious?
 
  Alan from OZ

Lord Aga

Posts 129
14 May 2011 09:05


We could have day 14 right away, I don't think anyone would mind :)

Wojtek P
Poland

Posts 1597
14 May 2011 10:05


Gunnar von Boehn wrote:

Now stop fighting and get back to the thread topic, please!

Who is fighting?
But someone second time writes untrue information.


Alan Haynes
Australia

Posts 74
14 May 2011 10:13


Lord Aga wrote:

We could have day 14 right away, I don't think anyone would mind :)

I certainly would not mind and if we had both day 13 and 14 that would be even better.

How about it Annika, what is your Dad been up to the last couple of days?

Alan from OZ

Geir E
Norway

Posts 104
14 May 2011 10:16


Lord Aga wrote:

We could have day 14 right away, I don't think anyone would mind :)

In fact, we could have had 13,14,15,16 and 17... and we would be back on track with the calendar days ;) In fact, right now Annika apparently has in average 34 hours in each day.

Which would make christmas be on the 3rd of january on a regular advent calendar. A mix between traditional christmas celebration and the Russian Orthodox that celebrates the 7th of january?

(It's a hard life being a curious soul in AmigaUniverse)

Alan Haynes
Australia

Posts 74
14 May 2011 10:32


Perhaps they are having so much fun with their Natami that they have forgotten all about the passing of time?



Bartek "Banter" K.
Poland
(Natami Team)
Posts 2277
14 May 2011 10:51


I guess, they are preparing something bigger this time:)

Alan Haynes
Australia

Posts 74
14 May 2011 11:21


Bartek "Banter" K. wrote:

I guess, they are preparing something bigger this time:)

Perhaps they went away for the weekend.
Sometimes no matter how good something (Natami) is the family still has to come first.

Cheers from OZ

Lord Aga

Posts 129
14 May 2011 14:39


Well, Natami is family :)
So if they are somewhere camping now, I'm sure Natami is with them, and we'll get a bunch of photos from that fun time :)

Richard GATINEAU
France

Posts 107
15 May 2011 08:35


I think Annika don't have #13th, #14th and #15th "chocolate" for us, because dad have already eat all !!! :D

Serge Alves
France

Posts 28
16 May 2011 18:13


Annika !!!!  Gunnar !!!!

Where are you ??????????????????????

Jacek Orzechowski
Poland

Posts 15
17 May 2011 06:18


And what? This is the end? And where is the thirteenth, fourteenth, fifteenth day? Something is burning down or some other tragedy?

Leonardo Massei
Italy

Posts 2
17 May 2011 07:23


Hi, I'm very impatient ... :)) Annika, please, let me see your wonderfull Natami world !

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