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Wojtek P
Poland
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Posts 1597
10 May 2011 10:07
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(new) DVI out (DVI-D) ........... working
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Most important update. I do not want to convert digital screen datastream to analog and then back to digital.
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Thierry Atheist
Canada
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Posts 1828
10 May 2011 19:08
| Jacek Rafal Tatko wrote:
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ł Hello , The Electronic Paper Natami ( NEP ) can do all the things bulkier smartphones can do ... such as make and take calls, send messages, play, play music or display e-books...·*O The Natami Wristband is a watch when convex, a PDA when flat and a phone when concave ...·*O EXTERNAL LINK .·*O
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I DEMAND a wristwatch NatAmi!!!!! (Remember? ;-))Looks like I MAY be able to get it!!!!! :-DDDDD
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Alan Haynes
Australia
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Posts 74
11 May 2011 05:09
| Thierry, What do you think Macrohard will do when our Natami (Wolf in sheeps clothing) is released to the world? I think they will probably offer Thomas and the team squidillions of $ to buy them out and then close it down in typical corporate bullying fashion! Cheers from OZ
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Niclas Aronsson
Sweden
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Posts 57
29 May 2011 10:19
| Shameful BUMP :) Any news / progress ?
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Amiga Dave / Amigadave
USA
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Posts 18
10 Jun 2011 08:45
| I have not been following all of the threads on these forums closely enough to know the answer to my question, so I will ask it here. Is there a list of people that will be buying the Natami developer boards when they are finally ready for sale? If there is such a waiting list, how can I get myself added to the list? Is it anticipated that developer boards will be available for sale this year, or will it be some time next year before any Natami boards will be available for sale to developers, or the general public? I was thinking of getting a FPGA Arcade Replay board, but would rather wait a little longer and get the developer version of the Natami with the 68060 board instead of the Replay board.
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Gunnar von Boehn
Germany
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Posts 5775
10 Jun 2011 09:08
| Amiga Dave / amigadave wrote:
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Is it anticipated that developer boards will be available for sale this year.
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More boards for developers are going to be shipped the next days.
People are now getting the boards in order of the priority of their works tasks. Amiga Dave / amigadave wrote:
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or will it be some time next year before any Natami boards will be available for sale to developers, or the general public?
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Boards for the general public will be available later - But still this year. We want to "brush up" the environment and provide a more complete bundle with drivers for USB, CyberGFX etc for the consumer customers.Developers which want to develop drivers need to be aware that their boards will get a couple of flash-updates and driver updates to bring them to the "polished level" that we plan for the normal customers.
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Marcel Verdaasdonk
Netherlands
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Posts 3976
10 Jun 2011 10:40
| Gunnar that is to be expected but be sure to document any diversion from the standard for the interfaces.
Even if you do not consider it worth of note.
Like using CMOS voltage levels instead of expected TTL voltage levels and such.
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Wojtek P
Poland
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Posts 1597
10 Jun 2011 18:05
| Marcel Verdaasdonk wrote:
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Gunnar that is to be expected but be sure to document any diversion from the standard for the interfaces.
Even if you do not consider it worth of note.
Like using CMOS voltage levels instead of expected TTL voltage levels and such.
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It's not todays PC crap.IT WILL HAVE PROPER DOCUMENTATION.
It has to. I think waiting even half year more but getting Natami with GOOD docs is fine.
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Rune Stensland
Norway
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Posts 871
10 Jun 2011 20:32
| Remember the hardware reference manual for the amiga? Do we need it for the Natami? Some ppl don't belive we need it, but I think we do.. We cant afford to hire 100's of programmers to make drivers, so we invite you to join us instead. We give you the hardware, show us what you can do:) The natami is madebfor the creative ppl.
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Marcel Verdaasdonk
Netherlands
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Posts 3976
11 Jun 2011 06:50
| Rune I think knowing the hardware reference manual is a good start for the Natami programers and developers.
However modern electronics has a different switching charistic's then electronics made 20 or 15 years ago.
I think there should be a errata where it's pointed out where this happens, New functions and features should be in their own Natami reference book.
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Wojtek P
Poland
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Posts 1597
11 Jun 2011 09:44
| Rune Stensland wrote:
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Remember the hardware reference manual for the amiga? Do we need it for the Natami? Some ppl don't belive we need it, but I think we do..
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YES WE DO. PERIOD. How someone can write any program making efficient use of hardware - without documentation?
We cant afford to hire 100's of programmers to make drivers, so we invite you to join us instead. We give you the hardware, show us what you can do:) The natami is madebfor the creative ppl.
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Louis Dias
USA
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Posts 217
27 Jun 2011 16:12
| May 6th was the last update from Thomas. Anything new?
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Zbigniew Stanislawiak
Poland
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Posts 26
27 Jun 2011 18:11
| Louis Dias wrote:
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May 6th was the last update from Thomas.
Anything new?
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Only this:
EXTERNAL LINK
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Thomas Hirsch
Germany
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Posts 647
29 Aug 2011 04:35
| PCI configuration working I am still quite busy with some kind of background work. Like establishing reliable flash procedures to enable the alpha users to safely update the board, writing a system startup menu which eases the power on configuring and writing some short documentation. Nevertheless I had some time to work a little on the system design as well. So I was able to bring PCI a few steps further. I implemented configuration access to the PCI devices. This means the configuration area of all PCI devices, the LAN and USB onboard chip and every PIC in the PCI slot can now be read and written. In short this means all PCI devices can now be configured, enabled and can now be memory-mapped. Till now PCI devices can not become bus master. This is because the memory arbiter needs still some work. But nevertheless for first tests on PCI devices this is sufficient. Chipset Features
Frame generation .......... ECS and variable pixel clock -> UCS
SyncZorro Interface ....... preliminary version
Copper .................... fully implemented, with buffered data fetch
Video DMA ................. fully implemented
256 color registers ....... fully implemented
AGA HAM8 .................. fully implemented
Sprites ................... 16bit linebuffer
blitter ................... basic implementation. Block and fill mode only, line to come
Video priority ............ half implemented
Scandoubler ............... fully implemented
Interrupts ................ fully implemented
Paula DMA control ......... fully implemented
Audio out ................. fully implemented
Disk DMA .................. 880k and 1760k, read only
Serial Port Paula UART .... fully implemented
Slow peripheral I/O ....... fully implemented
(Joy/Mouse/Keyb/PRT/DSK/SER)
PC mouse and kbd support .. o
CIAs ...................... fully implementedBoard Features
VGA out (DVI-A) ........... working
DVI out (DVI-D) ........... working
(new) PCI ....................... target and config transfer working, master still mising
IDE ....................... PIO mode 0 working
Compact Flash connector ... o
(new) NEC USB PCI ............... target and config access working, master to come
(new) RTL 8110 LAN .............. target and config access working, master to come
Battery-backed up clock.... working
15k Video out (module) .... o
15k Video in (module) ..... o
Audio in .................. o
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Shayne Fotheringhame
Australia
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Posts 23
29 Aug 2011 05:08
| Excellent.. thanks for the update!
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Wawa Tk
Germany
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Posts 581
29 Aug 2011 05:18
| what amiga software standard will be in control of natami pci solution, openpci? and what odf ub? poseidon? i recommend these as poseidon is already distributed on 68k and a part of aros, and openpci will probably be taken into account on aros 68k.
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I Immortal
Netherlands
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Posts 67
29 Aug 2011 08:31
| Hi Thomas, Thanks for the update! This is realy good news!
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Wojtek P
Poland
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Posts 1597
29 Aug 2011 11:20
| wawa tk wrote:
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what amiga software standard will be in control of natami pci solution, openpci? and what odf ub? poseidon? i recommend these as poseidon is already distributed on 68k and a part of aros, and openpci will probably be taken into account on aros 68k.
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I am 99% sure Thomas did it compatible with existing software. Most probably the only difference may be PCI register's addresses
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Mr Graham Bartram
United Kingdom
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Posts 34
29 Aug 2011 19:10
| Gunnar von Boehn wrote:
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Boards for the general public will be available later - But still this year.
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....best Christmas ever, I look forward with great anticipation. Thank you Gunnar, and thanks to all who have added to Natami in whatever way they have done so. I salute you.
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Geir E
Norway
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Posts 104
01 Sep 2011 13:39
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IDE ....................... PIO mode 0 working
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I'm no expert with hw so i ask silly question. but I know PIO mode 0 is the 3.3MB/s that every hd-amiga can do. But that's kind of sluggish. what about later PIO modes and DMA control?
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