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AROS Kickstart Replacement Bounty Supportpage  1 2 3 4 5 6 
André Jernung
Sweden
(MX-Board Owner)
Posts 988
18 Nov 2010 10:22


Hi,
         
Not everyone knows that there is a very important bounty going on at the moment. A bounty which will change the AMIGA community's future for the better. The aim is to make a free, open Kickstart replacement for AMIGA computers!
         
We have placed a link to the bounty donation site on the NATAMI page, so that anyone interested easily will be able to support this important project.
     
When completed, the Kickstart replacement will allow everyone to use a new free AMIGA Kickstart without expensive licenses and hassle.
         
It is a great step towards total freedom and independence for the AMIGA platform!
Please support the AROS Kickstart Replacement bounty.
   
   
You can donate to the AROS Kickstart Replacement bounty Phase II by Toni Wilen here:
EXTERNAL LINK     
         
Thank you!
 

Marcel Verdaasdonk
Netherlands

Posts 3976
18 Nov 2010 14:02


Well thank you André for making it easier to find.

I also hope this would lower the bar on making donations.

Amiga Ppc

Posts 246
19 Nov 2010 20:24


well, I just did.

Not much, but I feel good.

:)

Julio Arroyo
USA

Posts 8
23 Nov 2010 02:26


Forgive me for what may be a rookie question.....

I understand the value of a "clean room" version of the Kickstart and how it will free the community from the legal albatross of who owns what. That said, I have a couple of questions about the bounty.

Are we donating simply for the financial support of something that is currently in development?

How would more money accelerate or not the current development process, or is there a financial goal that would "green light" the project?

I see that the project has already been assigned to Toni Wilen with what I am assuming is a delivery date, correct?

If Toni does not meet the deadline, what then? just curious...

I see that this is a "Phase II" project, is the first phase complete?

Thanks

Jason S. McMullan
USA

Posts 35
23 Nov 2010 03:53


Kickstart Bounty I is complete, and is waiting on community verification of fulfillment of the requirements.

Go to aros-exec org's forums ('General chat') for details:

EXTERNAL LINK

Bartek "Banter" K.
Poland
(Natami Team)
Posts 2277
23 Nov 2010 07:20


Thank you for your amazing work, Jason!

I Immortal
Netherlands

Posts 67
23 Nov 2010 07:35


What Jason forgot to mention is, is that he is the one that completed the kickstart bounty I. And continues to do great work on AROS (68K)!

before I forget: Hi Jason! great to see you here on the forum. We have been following your great work very closely.

Jason S. McMullan wrote:

Kickstart Bounty I is complete, and is waiting on community verification of fulfillment of the requirements.
 
  Go to aros-exec org's forums ('General chat') for details:
 
  EXTERNAL LINK 



Captain Nemo
USA
(Natami Team)
Posts 362
23 Nov 2010 07:50


Jason S. McMullan wrote:

Kickstart Bounty I is complete, and is waiting on community verification of fulfillment of the requirements.
 
  Go to aros-exec org's forums ('General chat') for details:
 
  EXTERNAL LINK 

This is Very Awesome News! Thank you, so much, for all of your hard work!

Team Chaos Leader
USA
(Moderator)
Posts 2094
27 Nov 2010 08:29


Jason S. McMullan FTW!

Fahed Al Daye
Canada

Posts 282
27 Nov 2010 19:48


I don't get how this work. Are you saying I can using WinUAE to boot AROS? How? I don't know how to use the ROM in WinUAE. Can someone give me step by step how do I configure WinUAE to boot AROS and where to actually download the ROM and files for it? Thanks in advance.

Jorge Manuel Leal Ruivo
Germany

Posts 82
27 Nov 2010 23:24


you can download the Files for WinUAE here:
 
  EXTERNAL LINK 
  create a HDF (Hard Disk File) boot Amiga OS, copy all files from the Amiga Version Dir of AROS to the HDF. Bind the ROM files.. give it a lot of RAM .bind the AROS HDF. boot.. wait for a long time and you have the Amiga Version of AROS! :-)

Fahed Al Daye
Canada

Posts 282
28 Nov 2010 04:02


Do I use kickstart 3.1 for this?

Fahed Al Daye
Canada

Posts 282
29 Nov 2010 02:59


Is there away that this can increase in speed? I mean, if one is to replace their original Amiga kickstart ROM with this..it would take a day to boot an OS. I do not know if this is a good idea.

Samuel D Crow
USA
(Natami Team)
Posts 1295
29 Nov 2010 03:09


@Fahed Al Daye
It will be optimized better when we get a decent C compiler for the 68k.

Amiga Believer
Canada

Posts 282
02 Dec 2010 01:10


The original Kickstart was written in assembler, if the new replacement is written in C, it is quite unlikely that it will match the speed of the orignial. There are crucial components which really need to be optimised in the Kickstart, such as DOS and Exec. The other libs probably not really an issue. I am under the impression that if a replacement Kickstart is written, DOS and Exec should really be written in assembler.



Fahed Al Daye
Canada

Posts 282
02 Dec 2010 02:11


Amiga Believer wrote:

The original Kickstart was written in assembler, if the new replacement is written in C, it is quite unlikely that it will match the speed of the orignial. There are crucial components which really need to be optimised in the Kickstart, such as DOS and Exec. The other libs probably not really an issue. I am under the impression that if a replacement Kickstart is written, DOS and Exec should really be written in assembler.
 
 

What if the kickstart was written in visual C#.NET?

Amiga Believer
Canada

Posts 282
02 Dec 2010 02:21


Honestly, nothing is ever going to beat hand optimized assembly code for performance, which is probably the best option for things such as Exec and DOS.



Cesare Di Mauro
Italy

Posts 526
02 Dec 2010 07:57


Amiga Believer wrote:

The original Kickstart was written in assembler, if the new replacement is written in C, it is quite unlikely that it will match the speed of the orignial. There are crucial components which really need to be optimised in the Kickstart, such as DOS and Exec. The other libs probably not really an issue. I am under the impression that if a replacement Kickstart is written, DOS and Exec should really be written in assembler.

Only critical parts need to be optimized.

Cesare Di Mauro
Italy

Posts 526
02 Dec 2010 07:58


Fahed Al Daye wrote:

Amiga Believer wrote:

  The original Kickstart was written in assembler, if the new replacement is written in C, it is quite unlikely that it will match the speed of the orignial. There are crucial components which really need to be optimised in the Kickstart, such as DOS and Exec. The other libs probably not really an issue. I am under the impression that if a replacement Kickstart is written, DOS and Exec should really be written in assembler.

What if the kickstart was written in visual C#.NET?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singularity_(operating_system)

Gunnar von Boehn
Germany
(Moderator)
Posts 5775
02 Dec 2010 08:24


Amiga Believer wrote:

The original Kickstart was written in assembler.

What makes you think this?

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