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Olav Sørensen
Norway
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Posts 1
23 Sep 2009 06:35
| A dream coming true!
Some questions from an uninformed dude:
- What sound card chipset does it use?
- What graphics card chipset?
- Will this mobo fit in a standard ATX case?
- How many USB ports?
- Will there be a VGA port? Or DVI only? (I can use an adapter anyways)
You have no idea how interesting this project is to me, I really appreciate your hard work. I'm buying one in the future, almost sure!
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Laust Palbo Nielsen
Denmark
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Posts 47
23 Sep 2009 08:40
| Olav: Most, if not all, of those questions are answered in the Questions+Answers part of this site.
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Marcel Verdaasdonk
Netherlands
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Posts 2089
23 Sep 2009 08:45
| oke some answers
-SAGA's Paula, its a amiga style system none the less.
-SAGA see above statement.
-like i said before it looks like a Mini-ITX board to me.
-2USB ports upto the 1.1 standard.
-DVI
And Olav, all these things have been talked over on the forums.
SAGA is a evolutionary leap from AGA.(some points revolutionary too)@Laust all of them if you know where to look. ;)
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Gone Gahgah
Australia
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Posts 224
23 Sep 2009 09:05
| Sound card chipset? Onboard FPGA based SuperAGA.
Graphics card chipset? Onboard FPGA based SuperAGA.
Fit in ATX case? ATX is 305x244, Natami motherboard is 170x140.
USB ports? On diagram shows: "USB exp. (optional)" but no backplane port shown (http://www.natami.net/download/documentation/NatAmi_LX.pdf). On the hardward page: "simple (1.1) USB" (http://www.natami.net/hardware.htm).
VGA port? No.The 'Concept', 'Amiga Compatible', 'Hardware', 'Questions & Answers', options at the top will provide you with this info.
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Michael Borrmann
Germany
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Posts 37
23 Sep 2009 10:28
| @Thomas
Keep rocking, man...The day this Motherboard boots a workbench first time, "heads gonna esplode"... :D ;)
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Ingmar H
Germany
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Posts 45
23 Sep 2009 11:12
| Michael Borrmann wrote:
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@Thomas
Keep rocking, man...
The day this Motherboard boots a workbench first time, "heads gonna esplode"... :D ;)
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can we have a live broadcast of booting the first time ?
;-)
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Marcel Verdaasdonk
Netherlands
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Posts 2089
23 Sep 2009 13:31
| @Ingmar, if Micheal's head is gonna esplode i know who to blame then. :P
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Loriano Pagni
United Kingdom
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Posts 123
23 Sep 2009 13:36
| Ingmar H wrote:
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Michael Borrmann wrote:
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@Thomas
Keep rocking, man...
The day this Motherboard boots a workbench first time, "heads gonna esplode"... :D ;)
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can we have a live broadcast of booting the first time ?
;-)
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Can we have a live broadcast of the exploding head? :-) Question:
1280x1024 resolution...will it flicker? Does the Natami have a inbuilt flicker fixer? Thanks
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Gunnar von Boehn
Germany
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Posts 3727
23 Sep 2009 13:47
| Loriano Pagni wrote:
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Question:
1280x1024 resolution...will it flicker?
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No it will NOT flicker.
NATAMI can display all resolutions non-interlaced. Loriano Pagni wrote:
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Does the Natami have a inbuilt flicker fixer?
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This is not needed as NATAMI can display all resolutions flicker-free.
But the NATAMI has a build in scan-doubler to be able to show all TV-resolutions also on a VGA-monitor.Cheers
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Loriano Pagni
United Kingdom
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Posts 123
23 Sep 2009 14:35
| Hi Gun, Thank you for explaining. Brilliant! :-)
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Andreas G. Szabo
Germany
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Posts 102
23 Sep 2009 14:47
| isnt 1280x1024 a bit few compared to todays tft?
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Gunnar von Boehn
Germany
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Posts 3727
23 Sep 2009 15:15
| Andreas G. Szabo wrote:
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isnt 1280x1024 a bit few compared to todays tft?
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But its a lot better than your average A1200 right? 1600x1200 might be possible too but so far we are not guaranteeing anything over 1280x1024. ;-)
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Tropin Dmitriy
Russia
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Posts 2
23 Sep 2009 15:28
| Amazing news!!!! Congratulations!!!
Beautiful technical solution.
Great day for AMIGA community.
But USB-port must be by default.
This system or Natamy2(more powerfull) with AROS or modified AOS3.X may be very attractive platform not only for old-amigans but for many home-users..
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Dag Jacobsen
Norway
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Posts 47
24 Sep 2009 12:02
| One thing to think of is that almost all LCD screens these days are 16:10 or 16:9 format ! :-( Meaning 1280x720 possibly should be available ..
(Thats 16:9)
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Claudio Wieland
Germany
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Posts 364
24 Sep 2009 12:15
| The system can display up to 1280x1024. Which means that at 60Hz this is about 78.6 MHz pixel clock. 1280x720 meaning 55.3 MHz pixel clock. So no problems ahead :-) . 1080p might even be possible *g*
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Gunnar von Boehn
Germany
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Posts 3727
24 Sep 2009 12:51
| Claudio Wieland wrote:
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The system can display up to 1280x1024. Which means that at 60Hz this is about 78.6 MHz pixel clock.
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1280x1024@60Hz is about 108 MHz Pixel-Clock
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Marcel Verdaasdonk
Netherlands
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Posts 2089
24 Sep 2009 13:08
| Claudio, it's number wise posible if all we did was screen refreshing.
However with everything running in the back ground i think this will not run upto full specs.
Having what 25FPS? 14FPS?
Anyhow this could have been fine on a CRT, however not on a TFT or LCD screen.What i am getting at is that the total sum needed bandwidth is bigger then the bandwidth we can supply and thuse we will get a stall. Maybe adding another memory bus could solve this. :P
of course i am joking here. but anyhow we lack the bandwidth to guaranty even 720p it might be posible to get it working but no promises should be made about this type of performance.
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Claudio Wieland
Germany
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Posts 364
24 Sep 2009 13:19
| Marcel, I would say: Let's directly ask the people who *know* about these things. Maybe *Gunnar* can say something about my numbers? As I understood it, the DDR2 memory bandwidth is way more than enough to satisfy full HD. So it fully depends on the pixel clock alone. I would not care to have a 10% penalty on 720p or 1080p if Natami *can* do this. The old systems also grew a bit slower with higher resolutions, so what.
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Claudio Wieland
Germany
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Posts 364
24 Sep 2009 13:23
| Gunnar von Boehn wrote:
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Claudio Wieland wrote:
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The system can display up to 1280x1024. Which means that at 60Hz this is about 78.6 MHz pixel clock.
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1280x1024@60Hz is about 108 MHz Pixel-Clock
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How? My calculator says: 1280x1024x60 = 78,643,200 px/sec . Do I make a mistake here? Something I forgot?
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Gunnar von Boehn
Germany
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Posts 3727
24 Sep 2009 13:40
| Marcel Verdaasdonk wrote:
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but anyhow we lack the bandwidth to guaranty even it might be posible to get it working but no promises should be made about this type of performance.
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What are you talking about?
720p needs much less bandwidth than 1280x1024.
Would you mind stopping spreading such nonsense, please? What we said is that we lack the coming power to decode blue-ray or dvd in 1080p
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