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Claudio Wieland
Germany
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Posts 705
18 Mar 2010 11:53
| I agree with Gunnar. In German, I know what you wanted to say. I think you wanted to say that you want to leave the BAD part of 100% compatibility away ;-) . In fact, your goal is a further improvement. Please don't make it sound as if it were a step back or sth. like that (damn language barrier!).
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Marcel Verdaasdonk
Netherlands
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Posts 3979
18 Mar 2010 12:18
| Claudio I know what he meant, it's just that someone without prior understanding of German, or any other Germanic language.
and Google doesn't rebuild the sentence.(/darn language barrier) Thomas Hirsch please keep us posted on the progress.
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Claudio Wieland
Germany
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Posts 705
18 Mar 2010 12:40
| Marcel, that's *exactly* what I said already.. . But this is still important for people to know, who are not knowledgeable in German. Communication over language barriers is a difficult matter and is not to be underestimated. It is even hard enough to express oneself in one's mother tongue in a way which is intelligible to all who are addressed. If you understand what is meant by what Thomas said, Marcel, that's cool for you. But you can only speak for yourself, and in this case you were not even addressed, as you don't have a problem ;-) . Cheers
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Marcel Verdaasdonk
Netherlands
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Posts 3979
18 Mar 2010 16:19
| (rant)
I have said it in the past if it's directed to a German native or speaker, do it in German.(Gunnar VS Thomas Richter if you can recall)I prefer to keep it English so i can make everyone understand and that is the whole goal of this topic to give information to everyone who interest it. But yes some of us need to proof read our own post to avoid miss communication.
Or worse... I learned in school that the German language builds it's sentences different.
This if translated correctly isn't a problem if done wrong could cause confusion.(See many back and forth replies between me and Gunnar) I think it wouldn't hurt use at all if a native speak uses his or her native language when in doubt.
Although this increases the work in a post since then it needs the English translation too. Shame we don't have professional translators here...
(/rant)
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Thomas Hirsch
Germany
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Posts 647
18 Mar 2010 17:26
| OK, then let me rephrase it: Sprites are now working. The line buffer is only 16 bit for now, like in OCS/ECS. This will be changed to the full AGA line in future, which is no problem since the fetching is already done. And as an improvement to AGA it is now possible to use all sprites every time without any restriction. As you know AGA had some restrictions in that matter which we were able to remove. This, of course does not affect the compatibility.
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Claudio Wieland
Germany
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Posts 705
18 Mar 2010 18:06
| Excellent :-)
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Bartek "Banter" K.
Poland
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Posts 2277
18 Mar 2010 19:37
| You rock, Thomas! Let's bring on NatAmi!
Thank you for your wonderful work!mfG
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Michael v. Parent
France
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Posts 434
18 Mar 2010 20:03
| That is awesome, Thomas. Just out of morbid curiosity, how trivial would it be to drastically enhance the AGA sprite ability? I know its almost pointless due to the HUGE blitting power of SAGA, but if it would be a mater of a 2 minute change to get drastically more (but still compatible) sprites, it might be worth considdering, although I can't currently think of a good arguement for doing so. ;)
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Erik Bauer
Italy
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Posts 301
18 Mar 2010 20:18
| Because sprites are cool?
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Michael v. Parent
France
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Posts 434
18 Mar 2010 20:21
| that was thebest i could come up with. ;) that and "if it costs nothing to further increase the sprite power, why not?"
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Channel Z
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Posts 227
18 Mar 2010 21:09
| It would cost a lot of unnecessary sprite registers, thats for sure.
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Marcel Verdaasdonk
Netherlands
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Posts 3979
18 Mar 2010 21:15
| Michael I advice to take a dip in the crypts here of the forum and read some old topic's. Bandwidth and stuff compared to other methods are mentioned there. I think we should sum up all that have been talked about in the past, prevents us from going ahead and talking in circles. Still 8 sprites is sweet to have especially since a few limitations have been lifted.
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Michael v. Parent
France
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Posts 434
18 Mar 2010 21:36
| Thats fine by me. Like I said, I didn't even have any particular want for more sprites so I'n not worried about it. Blitting is more to my liking anyway. ;)
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Gunnar von Boehn
Germany
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Posts 5775
19 Mar 2010 06:13
| Michael V. Parent wrote:
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Thats fine by me. Like I said, I didn't even have any particular want for more sprites so I'n not worried about it. Blitting is more to my liking anyway. ;)
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Sprites are cool - I agree.
But Sprites have by design limitations. The Blitter is a lot more flexible and as you fully correctly said the Blitter has so much power that we can do with it that we want. Technically it would be possible to increase the Spite numbers.
This is not difficult - just cut and paste.
But this would costs us significant resources for the registers.
While its no work to increase the number of sprites - my opinion is that it would be not good usage of our chip resources.
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Michael v. Parent
France
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Posts 434
19 Mar 2010 08:14
| sounds right to me.
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Thomas Hirsch
Germany
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Posts 647
19 Mar 2010 19:10
| interrupts, serial IO and CIAs
This time it is a short message, but nevertheless important.
It is now possible to move the mouse pointer (from the last picture) now with a real Amiga mouse. For that Interrupts are working correctly and the CIAs are now fully implemented. It also means that the serial I/O CPLD is also working correctly. So all I/O ports are available now to the system.
Frame generation ...... ECS, fixed 28MHz pixel clock
SyncZorro Interface ... preliminary version
Copper ................ fully implemented
Video DMA ............. fully implemented
256 color registers ... fully implemented
Sprites ............... 16bit linebuffer
blitter ............... o
Video priority ........ half implemented
Scandoubler ........... fully implemented
(new) Interrupts ............ fully implemented
Paula DMA control ..... fully implemented
Audio out ............. o
VGA out ............... working
DVI out ............... o
PCI ................... o
IDE ................... o
(new) CIAs .................. fully implemented
Disk DMA .............. o
Serial Port DMA ....... o
(new) Slow peripheral I/O ... fully implemented
(Joy/Mouse/Keyb/PRT/DSK/SER)
Fast RAM controller ... o
Kickstart flash logic . o
15k Video out ......... o
15k Video in .......... o
Audio in .............. o
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Michael v. Parent
France
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Posts 434
19 Mar 2010 20:12
| awesome...this is avery exciting list to follow!
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Alexander Moon
Denmark
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Posts 33
19 Mar 2010 21:17
| Takes my breath away... Very exciting! :) Good work!
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Deep Sub Micron
Germany
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Posts 567
20 Mar 2010 01:01
| Hey, very impressive high frequency of good news !
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Hagbard Celine
Norway
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Posts 24
20 Mar 2010 14:31
| Wonderful. Keep up the good work.
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